[Biopython] How many of you are on Slack?

Alister Burt alisterburt at gmail.com
Thu Jul 1 07:01:55 EDT 2021


Hi all,

I don’t contribute to Biopython but I work on another open source project which makes heavy use of a solution called Zulip. https://zulip.com/ <https://zulip.com/>

There is some overhead, it’s self hosted, but we really love the combination of instantaneous chat with the email threading model that it provides.

Best,

Alister

> On 30 Jun 2021, at 23:16, Martin Mokrejs <mmokrejs at fold.natur.cuni.cz> wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
>  me too, although I have to use Slack for a project I don't like it. And am on second slack channel to which which don't even login using a different email address. I don't have time to follow all the notices, sorry. If you wan to convert biopython-dev to Slack just do it, it affects few people. It is at least clearer than IRC. While shutting down the email list you will probably loose some readers. Myself I am not going to re-register. I guess others who won't speak will also just disregard if they stop receiving emails from the list.
> 
>  I am loosing track of biopython development as I did not migrate apps to python3, did not switch away from matplotlib, well, do as you wish. I am not actively contributing so my participation is not really relevant. If it is time burden to maintain the virtuals running mailman etc., well, ...
> 
> Best,
> Martin
> 
> 
> On 30/06/2021 23:38, Stéphane Téletchéa wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> I understand the arguments of all others,
>> 
>> Le 28/06/2021 à 17:00, João Rodrigues a écrit :
>>> An email is "passive": you subscribe and that's it, gets delivered to your inbox. It's also the lowest common denominator in terms of tech in the sense that everyone has/uses email.
>> 
>> But yes, I'm probably more traditional, email is asynchronous and I like that.
>> 
>> Personally I really HATE slack, too disperse for my brain, I've worked with it for one year and this was awful and very time consuming,
>> I'm also using regularly Mattermost and I also dislike it a lot. Students say it is wonderful, but this was really because we were confined
>> that I had accepted to work like this (taking too much time to be productive).
>> 
>> Considering google groups, I also HATE it as google mail etc. I'm also concerned about the
>> "we cut without delay this service as we don't want to run it anymore" policy of Google that happened already on many of their past services.
>> 
>> This is probably only me but I have a very well organised mail box with many synchronised mails (sometimes on one computer, sometimes on another one),
>> and that fits my needs.
>> 
>> If you close the mailing list, then I'd follow, but the existing situation is ok to me.
>> 
>> Considering the overhead of running different systems, I completely understand the need to leverage it,
>> but I'm not sure there are reliable long-term solutions really available.
>> 
>> My 0.02 cents/pennies.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Stéphane
>> 
> 
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