[Biopython] How many of you are on Slack?

[Peter Cock]

Here's an updated invitation link to the OBF slack where there is a
#Biopython channel:

https://join.slack.com/t/open-bio/shared_invite/zt-u2qx45j4-RMp2Q7ZGt1inPWRNQlh1Qw

We've had a few more people join over the weekend via the BOSC 2021
CoFest, although
the actual discussion for that happened on the OBF BOSC slack (which
for reasons lost in
time is separate).

The slack channel worked quite well for that, although I was already
starting to loose track
of threads and splintered conversations. It would require some team
discipline to keep
larger decision making somewhere (a) open and public, and (b)
available and searchable
long term. For example, including a summary of the pros and cons
discussed on slack
before reaching a consensus on an issue or pull request on GitHub.

My having trouble keeping track of multiple conversations wasn't a
surprise to me given
how we use Slack where I work, but it does make the claimed improved
thread support
in Zulip more intriguing.

Peter

On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 6:04 PM Tiago Antão <tiagoantao at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1 for considering zulip
>
> Tiago
>
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2021, 7:02 AM Alister Burt <alisterburt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I don’t contribute to Biopython but I work on another open source project which makes heavy use of a solution called Zulip. https://zulip.com/
>>
>> There is some overhead, it’s self hosted, but we really love the combination of instantaneous chat with the email threading model that it provides.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Alister
>>
>> On 30 Jun 2021, at 23:16, Martin Mokrejs <mmokrejs at fold.natur.cuni.cz> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>  me too, although I have to use Slack for a project I don't like it. And am on second slack channel to which which don't even login using a different email address. I don't have time to follow all the notices, sorry. If you wan to convert biopython-dev to Slack just do it, it affects few people. It is at least clearer than IRC. While shutting down the email list you will probably loose some readers. Myself I am not going to re-register. I guess others who won't speak will also just disregard if they stop receiving emails from the list.
>>
>>  I am loosing track of biopython development as I did not migrate apps to python3, did not switch away from matplotlib, well, do as you wish. I am not actively contributing so my participation is not really relevant. If it is time burden to maintain the virtuals running mailman etc., well, ...
>>
>> Best,
>> Martin
>>
>>
>> On 30/06/2021 23:38, Stéphane Téletchéa wrote:
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>> Dear all,
>>
>> I understand the arguments of all others,
>>
>> Le 28/06/2021 à 17:00, João Rodrigues a écrit :
>>
>> An email is "passive": you subscribe and that's it, gets delivered to your inbox. It's also the lowest common denominator in terms of tech in the sense that everyone has/uses email.
>>
>>
>> But yes, I'm probably more traditional, email is asynchronous and I like that.
>>
>> Personally I really HATE slack, too disperse for my brain, I've worked with it for one year and this was awful and very time consuming,
>> I'm also using regularly Mattermost and I also dislike it a lot. Students say it is wonderful, but this was really because we were confined
>> that I had accepted to work like this (taking too much time to be productive).
>>
>> Considering google groups, I also HATE it as google mail etc. I'm also concerned about the
>> "we cut without delay this service as we don't want to run it anymore" policy of Google that happened already on many of their past services.
>>
>> This is probably only me but I have a very well organised mail box with many synchronised mails (sometimes on one computer, sometimes on another one),
>> and that fits my needs.
>>
>> If you close the mailing list, then I'd follow, but the existing situation is ok to me.
>>
>> Considering the overhead of running different systems, I completely understand the need to leverage it,
>> but I'm not sure there are reliable long-term solutions really available.
>>
>> My 0.02 cents/pennies.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
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