[Biopython-dev] [Numpy-discussion] Python extensions for Python 3.5 - useful info...

[Fields, Christopher J]

Yep, we had the same problem on the bioperl end (lack of Windows devs).  Most we had would get frustrated over time, switch to something else that is easier to get work done :)

chris

> On Aug 26, 2015, at 9:57 AM, Peter Cock <p.j.a.cock at googlemail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> I'd like to retire this WinXP box, but not until I have another
> Windows development machine setup (perhaps a VM).
> For now it is handy for building our Biopython installers
> for 32-bit windows, and as a buildbot slave, but its days
> are numbered.
> 
> I've not looked into how to install MSCV 14.0 but it would
> not surprise me that it isn't available on Windows XP.
> 
> Biopython would benefit from one or more developers
> working primarily on Windows (which is what I did when
> I first started).
> 
> Peter
> 
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Fields, Christopher J
> <cjfields at illinois.edu> wrote:
>> Peter, Just a note on Windows XP and Python 3.5 support (under 'Unsupported
>> Operating Systems’):
>> 
>> https://docs.python.org/3.6/whatsnew/3.5.html
>> 
>> Not sure how this affects whether it actually would work on XP using MS
>> Visual C++ 14.0 though; is it supported on that platform?
>> 
>> chris
>> 
>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 3:52 AM, Peter Cock <p.j.a.cock at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> Python 3.5.0 rc 2 is out now, so we ought to be testing
>> Biopython with it:
>> 
>> https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-350rc2/
>> 
>> However, this has deeper implications for compiling on
>> Windows - in addition to the email forwarded below, I
>> also saw this via Guido van Rossum's Twitter,
>> 
>> https://twitter.com/gvanrossum/status/636279572938428416
>> http://stevedower.id.au/blog/building-for-python-3-5/
>> 
>> The key point is for Python 3.5 on Windows builds now use
>> Microsoft Visual C++ 14.0, and extension modules should
>> use the same.
>> 
>> He notes that for the short term, there are likely to be
>> compatibility problems with mingw32 which we have also
>> used previously.
>> 
>> Unless someone else volunteers, at some point I will have
>> to try installing MSVC 14.0 on my old Windows XP machine
>> which has been used for all our recent Biopython Windows
>> installers.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Peter
>> 
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Fernando Perez <fperez.net at gmail.com>
>> Date: Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:24 AM
>> Subject: [Numpy-discussion] Python extensions for Python 3.5 - useful
>> info...
>> To: Discussion of Numerical Python <numpy-discussion at scipy.org>, SciPy
>> Developers List <scipy-dev at scipy.net>, Core developer mailing list of
>> the Cython compiler <cython-devel at python.org>
>> 
>> 
>> Just an FYI for the upcoming Python release, a very detailed post from
>> Steve Dower, the Microsoft developer who is now in charge of the
>> Windows releases for Python, on how the build process will change in
>> 3.5 regarding extensions:
>> 
>> http://stevedower.id.au/blog/building-for-python-3-5/
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> f
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