[Bioperl-l] a Main Page proposal

[Jason Stajich]

thanks - yeah I had separated it by year to make it easier to update  
them since the main file was too large, but I liked having them all  
pulled in onto one page in order to see the total number of cites.  
Brian's graphic is nice but a little out of date, and only reflects a  
pubmed query.

Basically that system doesn't work well enough with biblio since it  
isn't caching the lookups very well.   We can probably do better  
somehow, but someone would have to really be dedicated to it, so I can  
kind of see now why we could use something like this to generate the  
citations so they'd be static.
http://sumsearch.uthscsa.edu/cite/

I had used Biblio extension as it was so easy but maybe it just can't  
scale for that number of needed refs as it doesn't do very good local  
caching AFAIK.

-jason
On Sep 25, 2009, at 6:30 AM, Mark A. Jensen wrote:

> It's ugly, but it works now.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Fields" <cjfields at illinois.edu 
> >
> To: "Peter" <biopython at maubp.freeserve.co.uk>
> Cc: "BioPerl List" <bioperl-l at lists.open-bio.org>; "Mark A. Jensen" <maj at fortinbras.us 
> >
> Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 9:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [Bioperl-l] a Main Page proposal
>
>
>>
>> On Sep 21, 2009, at 7:28 AM, Peter wrote:
>>
>>> Peter wrote:
>>>>> We had some similar discussions about the Biopython wiki
>>>>> based homepage - although our old one was nowhere near
>>>>> as busy as the current BioPerl main page, it was still not as
>>>>> welcoming as our current version *tries* to be.
>>>>> ...
>>>>> I can dig out links to our mailing list archive if anyone is
>>>>> interested in the discussion.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Mark A. Jensen wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'd appreciate those links, Peter- thanks
>>>> MAJ
>>>
>>> OK, here you are - this was most of it, I'd have to dig though
>>> my old emails to see what else I can find:
>>> http://lists.open-bio.org/pipermail/biopython-dev/2009-April/005867.html
>>>
>>> Remember Biopython went from a very minimal home page, to
>>> something aiming to be more newcomer friendly. BioPerl on the
>>> other hand seems to want to move away from the current very
>>> text heavy information rich page to something more focused and
>>> newcomer friendly. To me at least the current page is too dense,
>>> intimidating, and the important bits get lost in all the content.
>>>
>>> [My apologies if any of this feedback come accross too blunt.]
>>
>> Not at all; I'm thinking the same thing.
>>
>>> If you haven't already looked at them, you should checkout the
>>> other OBF project pages for ideas. The BioJava homepage is
>>> also using the wiki - in my opinion it is a bit cluttered, but is
>>> still more accessible than the current BioPerl page. Also,
>>> the BioRuby page is very nice - although not wiki based.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Peter
>>
>> I think the Biopython layout is very nice and focused.  Maybe a  
>> bit  too minimal, but then again I don't like scrolling up and down  
>> the  page to find the relevant bits, so less may be better.
>>
>> Reminds me of the simplifed design on the perl6 main page (just  
>> don't  stare at the hallucinogenic butterfly too long):
>>
>> http://www.perl6.org/
>>
>> So, maybe a structured layout with the most important links, and   
>> additional links on a separate page.
>>
>> chris
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