From hlapp at gmx.net  Wed Mar 18 14:45:50 2009
From: hlapp at gmx.net (Hilmar Lapp)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:45:50 -0400
Subject: [GSoC] OBF application for Summer of Code has been rejected
Message-ID: <44D1FAFD-B5D7-418B-9FDA-6945219A5481@gmx.net>

I hope to find out later why, but our Google Summer of Code  
application as an umbrella org has been rejected.

However, NESCent has been accepted. If you can give your project idea  
a phylogenetics/phyloinformatics focus, go and put it up on the  
NESCent ideas page at

http://hackathon.nescent.org/Phyloinformatics_Summer_of_Code_2009

Do so pretty much **now** - we will start broadcasting and reaching  
out to students tonight and tomorrow. If someone comes to the site and  
they don't see a Bio* project that they would have been interested in,  
they may not check back for updates.

	-hilmar

-- 
===========================================================
: Hilmar Lapp  -:-  Durham, NC  -:-  hlapp at gmx dot net :
===========================================================




From maj at fortinbras.us  Wed Mar 18 16:29:12 2009
From: maj at fortinbras.us (Mark A. Jensen)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:29:12 -0400
Subject: [GSoC] [Bioperl-l] OBF application for Summer of Code has been
	rejected
In-Reply-To: <44D1FAFD-B5D7-418B-9FDA-6945219A5481@gmx.net>
References: <44D1FAFD-B5D7-418B-9FDA-6945219A5481@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <4164752F4ECA4A929AFAF4995FEDC3C8@NewLife>

Done.
MAJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hilmar Lapp" <hlapp at gmx.net>
To: "BioPerl List" <bioperl-l at lists.open-bio.org>; "BioJava" 
<biojava-l at biojava.org>; "Biopython List" <biopython at lists.open-bio.org>; 
"Bioruby" <bioruby at lists.open-bio.org>; "BioLib Project" 
<biolib-dev at lists.open-bio.org>; "BioSQL" <biosql-l at lists.open-bio.org>; 
<gsoc at lists.open-bio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:45 PM
Subject: [Bioperl-l] OBF application for Summer of Code has been rejected


>I hope to find out later why, but our Google Summer of Code  application as an 
>umbrella org has been rejected.
>
> However, NESCent has been accepted. If you can give your project idea  a 
> phylogenetics/phyloinformatics focus, go and put it up on the  NESCent ideas 
> page at
>
> http://hackathon.nescent.org/Phyloinformatics_Summer_of_Code_2009
>
> Do so pretty much **now** - we will start broadcasting and reaching  out to 
> students tonight and tomorrow. If someone comes to the site and  they don't 
> see a Bio* project that they would have been interested in,  they may not 
> check back for updates.
>
> -hilmar
>
> -- 
> ===========================================================
> : Hilmar Lapp  -:-  Durham, NC  -:-  hlapp at gmx dot net :
> ===========================================================
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bioperl-l mailing list
> Bioperl-l at lists.open-bio.org
> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/bioperl-l
>
> 


From cjfields at illinois.edu  Wed Mar 18 15:08:48 2009
From: cjfields at illinois.edu (Chris Fields)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:08:48 -0500
Subject: [GSoC] [BioSQL-l] OBF application for Summer of Code has been
	rejected
In-Reply-To: <44D1FAFD-B5D7-418B-9FDA-6945219A5481@gmx.net>
References: <44D1FAFD-B5D7-418B-9FDA-6945219A5481@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <B306969B-29F9-48C3-9860-F9E30757F0E7@illinois.edu>

Hilmar,

The idea was floated on the google SOC list that language-specific  
organizations that have been accepted may potentially take  
bioinformatics-related  applications.  Specifically, Jonathan Leto  
(from The Perl Foundation) indicated that bioinformatics-related  
projects using BioPerl might be able to apply through them.  Not sure  
about others (Python Software Foundation, etc) but might be worth  
checking into.

Any idea on who's been accepted beyond NEScent?

chris

On Mar 18, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Hilmar Lapp wrote:

> I hope to find out later why, but our Google Summer of Code  
> application as an umbrella org has been rejected.
>
> However, NESCent has been accepted. If you can give your project  
> idea a phylogenetics/phyloinformatics focus, go and put it up on the  
> NESCent ideas page at
>
> http://hackathon.nescent.org/Phyloinformatics_Summer_of_Code_2009
>
> Do so pretty much **now** - we will start broadcasting and reaching  
> out to students tonight and tomorrow. If someone comes to the site  
> and they don't see a Bio* project that they would have been  
> interested in, they may not check back for updates.
>
> 	-hilmar
>
> -- 
> ===========================================================
> : Hilmar Lapp  -:-  Durham, NC  -:-  hlapp at gmx dot net :
> ===========================================================
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> BioSQL-l mailing list
> BioSQL-l at lists.open-bio.org
> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/biosql-l


From hlapp at gmx.net  Wed Mar 18 18:50:26 2009
From: hlapp at gmx.net (Hilmar Lapp)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:50:26 -0400
Subject: [GSoC] [BioSQL-l] OBF application for Summer of Code has been
	rejected
In-Reply-To: <B306969B-29F9-48C3-9860-F9E30757F0E7@illinois.edu>
References: <44D1FAFD-B5D7-418B-9FDA-6945219A5481@gmx.net>
	<B306969B-29F9-48C3-9860-F9E30757F0E7@illinois.edu>
Message-ID: <D013D9EA-8509-43B7-988C-3CBA94A580F2@gmx.net>

Yes, thanks for mentioning that, was going to do so too. The Perl  
Foundation and the Python foundation have been accepted.

I guess there isn't a Java Foundation, and if there is a Ruby one it  
hasn't been accepted or hasn't applied. However, Ruby on Rails has  
been accepted. Don't know how open they would be a Bioruby project.

	-hilmar

On Mar 18, 2009, at 3:08 PM, Chris Fields wrote:

> Hilmar,
>
> The idea was floated on the google SOC list that language-specific  
> organizations that have been accepted may potentially take  
> bioinformatics-related  applications.  Specifically, Jonathan Leto  
> (from The Perl Foundation) indicated that bioinformatics-related  
> projects using BioPerl might be able to apply through them.  Not  
> sure about others (Python Software Foundation, etc) but might be  
> worth checking into.
>
> Any idea on who's been accepted beyond NEScent?
>
> chris
>
> On Mar 18, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Hilmar Lapp wrote:
>
>> I hope to find out later why, but our Google Summer of Code  
>> application as an umbrella org has been rejected.
>>
>> However, NESCent has been accepted. If you can give your project  
>> idea a phylogenetics/phyloinformatics focus, go and put it up on  
>> the NESCent ideas page at
>>
>> http://hackathon.nescent.org/Phyloinformatics_Summer_of_Code_2009
>>
>> Do so pretty much **now** - we will start broadcasting and reaching  
>> out to students tonight and tomorrow. If someone comes to the site  
>> and they don't see a Bio* project that they would have been  
>> interested in, they may not check back for updates.
>>
>> 	-hilmar
>>
>> -- 
>> ===========================================================
>> : Hilmar Lapp  -:-  Durham, NC  -:-  hlapp at gmx dot net :
>> ===========================================================
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> BioSQL-l mailing list
>> BioSQL-l at lists.open-bio.org
>> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/biosql-l

-- 
===========================================================
: Hilmar Lapp  -:-  Durham, NC  -:-  hlapp at gmx dot net :
===========================================================




From hlapp at gmx.net  Thu Mar 19 10:20:47 2009
From: hlapp at gmx.net (Hilmar Lapp)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:20:47 -0400
Subject: [GSoC] organization feedback
Message-ID: <AF8347A4-9DA0-4886-8F8F-93C788BD9C6E@gmx.net>

Hi all,

just for the records and for those interested, here's the feedback  
from Leslie (who runs the program at Google's end) on our application  
(this is verbatim from IRC on #gsoc): "good application, good ideas  
list, hilmar does well and is experienced. we just cannot accept  
everyone. i wish i had a more satisfying answer for you."

It's a pretty tough year to apply - Google is reducing the number of  
accepted organizations compared to last year by more than 20, and in  
addition they wanted to accept a few new ones, so a significant number  
of orgs who participated last year would have had to be rejected  
already. There were about 400 applying orgs, of which 150 got accepted.

So we didn't make it among the few new orgs, but achieving that was a  
tall order to start with. It seems like we didn't make any mistake  
that one can easily point at, but we also weren't lucky enough to rise  
to one of the few spots given to new orgs.

On the positive side of things, I'm sure this application got us into  
the books, and given the feedback on a positive note, and we can try  
again and harder next year. The project ideas don't have to be for  
naught; there are other organizations, such as NESCent, Perl  
Foundation, and Python Foundation, that did get accepted and some of  
which have already offered to host those in scope for their  
participation. So if you want to make your project happen and it fits  
underneath one of those (or you can make it fit), it's up to you now  
to take charge of that.

Thanks to everyone who helped getting us in shape, I've enjoyed  
putting this together and I'd be up for it again next year provided  
everyone else is too.

BTW I'm going to make the archives of this list public now.

Cheers,

	-hilmar
-- 
===========================================================
: Hilmar Lapp  -:-  Durham, NC  -:-  hlapp at gmx dot net :
===========================================================




From maj at fortinbras.us  Thu Mar 19 10:27:58 2009
From: maj at fortinbras.us (Mark A. Jensen)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:27:58 -0400
Subject: [GSoC] organization feedback
In-Reply-To: <AF8347A4-9DA0-4886-8F8F-93C788BD9C6E@gmx.net>
References: <AF8347A4-9DA0-4886-8F8F-93C788BD9C6E@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <E63A24B0C80046B1A0A52CD30F95693A@NewLife>

Thanks for your hard work on the application, Hilmar- 
onward- MAJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hilmar Lapp" <hlapp at gmx.net>
To: <gsoc at lists.open-bio.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: [GSoC] organization feedback


> Hi all,
> 
> just for the records and for those interested, here's the feedback  
> from Leslie (who runs the program at Google's end) on our application  
> (this is verbatim from IRC on #gsoc): "good application, good ideas  
> list, hilmar does well and is experienced. we just cannot accept  
> everyone. i wish i had a more satisfying answer for you."
> 
> It's a pretty tough year to apply - Google is reducing the number of  
> accepted organizations compared to last year by more than 20, and in  
> addition they wanted to accept a few new ones, so a significant number  
> of orgs who participated last year would have had to be rejected  
> already. There were about 400 applying orgs, of which 150 got accepted.
> 
> So we didn't make it among the few new orgs, but achieving that was a  
> tall order to start with. It seems like we didn't make any mistake  
> that one can easily point at, but we also weren't lucky enough to rise  
> to one of the few spots given to new orgs.
> 
> On the positive side of things, I'm sure this application got us into  
> the books, and given the feedback on a positive note, and we can try  
> again and harder next year. The project ideas don't have to be for  
> naught; there are other organizations, such as NESCent, Perl  
> Foundation, and Python Foundation, that did get accepted and some of  
> which have already offered to host those in scope for their  
> participation. So if you want to make your project happen and it fits  
> underneath one of those (or you can make it fit), it's up to you now  
> to take charge of that.
> 
> Thanks to everyone who helped getting us in shape, I've enjoyed  
> putting this together and I'd be up for it again next year provided  
> everyone else is too.
> 
> BTW I'm going to make the archives of this list public now.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -hilmar
> -- 
> ===========================================================
> : Hilmar Lapp  -:-  Durham, NC  -:-  hlapp at gmx dot net :
> ===========================================================
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GSoC mailing list
> GSoC at lists.open-bio.org
> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/gsoc
> 
>

From hlapp at gmx.net  Wed Mar 18 18:45:50 2009
From: hlapp at gmx.net (Hilmar Lapp)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:45:50 -0400
Subject: [GSoC] OBF application for Summer of Code has been rejected
Message-ID: <44D1FAFD-B5D7-418B-9FDA-6945219A5481@gmx.net>

I hope to find out later why, but our Google Summer of Code  
application as an umbrella org has been rejected.

However, NESCent has been accepted. If you can give your project idea  
a phylogenetics/phyloinformatics focus, go and put it up on the  
NESCent ideas page at

http://hackathon.nescent.org/Phyloinformatics_Summer_of_Code_2009

Do so pretty much **now** - we will start broadcasting and reaching  
out to students tonight and tomorrow. If someone comes to the site and  
they don't see a Bio* project that they would have been interested in,  
they may not check back for updates.

	-hilmar

-- 
===========================================================
: Hilmar Lapp  -:-  Durham, NC  -:-  hlapp at gmx dot net :
===========================================================





From maj at fortinbras.us  Wed Mar 18 20:29:12 2009
From: maj at fortinbras.us (Mark A. Jensen)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:29:12 -0400
Subject: [GSoC] [Bioperl-l] OBF application for Summer of Code has been
	rejected
In-Reply-To: <44D1FAFD-B5D7-418B-9FDA-6945219A5481@gmx.net>
References: <44D1FAFD-B5D7-418B-9FDA-6945219A5481@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <4164752F4ECA4A929AFAF4995FEDC3C8@NewLife>

Done.
MAJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hilmar Lapp" <hlapp at gmx.net>
To: "BioPerl List" <bioperl-l at lists.open-bio.org>; "BioJava" 
<biojava-l at biojava.org>; "Biopython List" <biopython at lists.open-bio.org>; 
"Bioruby" <bioruby at lists.open-bio.org>; "BioLib Project" 
<biolib-dev at lists.open-bio.org>; "BioSQL" <biosql-l at lists.open-bio.org>; 
<gsoc at lists.open-bio.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 2:45 PM
Subject: [Bioperl-l] OBF application for Summer of Code has been rejected


>I hope to find out later why, but our Google Summer of Code  application as an 
>umbrella org has been rejected.
>
> However, NESCent has been accepted. If you can give your project idea  a 
> phylogenetics/phyloinformatics focus, go and put it up on the  NESCent ideas 
> page at
>
> http://hackathon.nescent.org/Phyloinformatics_Summer_of_Code_2009
>
> Do so pretty much **now** - we will start broadcasting and reaching  out to 
> students tonight and tomorrow. If someone comes to the site and  they don't 
> see a Bio* project that they would have been interested in,  they may not 
> check back for updates.
>
> -hilmar
>
> -- 
> ===========================================================
> : Hilmar Lapp  -:-  Durham, NC  -:-  hlapp at gmx dot net :
> ===========================================================
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bioperl-l mailing list
> Bioperl-l at lists.open-bio.org
> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/bioperl-l
>
> 



From cjfields at illinois.edu  Wed Mar 18 19:08:48 2009
From: cjfields at illinois.edu (Chris Fields)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:08:48 -0500
Subject: [GSoC] [BioSQL-l] OBF application for Summer of Code has been
	rejected
In-Reply-To: <44D1FAFD-B5D7-418B-9FDA-6945219A5481@gmx.net>
References: <44D1FAFD-B5D7-418B-9FDA-6945219A5481@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <B306969B-29F9-48C3-9860-F9E30757F0E7@illinois.edu>

Hilmar,

The idea was floated on the google SOC list that language-specific  
organizations that have been accepted may potentially take  
bioinformatics-related  applications.  Specifically, Jonathan Leto  
(from The Perl Foundation) indicated that bioinformatics-related  
projects using BioPerl might be able to apply through them.  Not sure  
about others (Python Software Foundation, etc) but might be worth  
checking into.

Any idea on who's been accepted beyond NEScent?

chris

On Mar 18, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Hilmar Lapp wrote:

> I hope to find out later why, but our Google Summer of Code  
> application as an umbrella org has been rejected.
>
> However, NESCent has been accepted. If you can give your project  
> idea a phylogenetics/phyloinformatics focus, go and put it up on the  
> NESCent ideas page at
>
> http://hackathon.nescent.org/Phyloinformatics_Summer_of_Code_2009
>
> Do so pretty much **now** - we will start broadcasting and reaching  
> out to students tonight and tomorrow. If someone comes to the site  
> and they don't see a Bio* project that they would have been  
> interested in, they may not check back for updates.
>
> 	-hilmar
>
> -- 
> ===========================================================
> : Hilmar Lapp  -:-  Durham, NC  -:-  hlapp at gmx dot net :
> ===========================================================
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> BioSQL-l mailing list
> BioSQL-l at lists.open-bio.org
> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/biosql-l



From hlapp at gmx.net  Wed Mar 18 22:50:26 2009
From: hlapp at gmx.net (Hilmar Lapp)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:50:26 -0400
Subject: [GSoC] [BioSQL-l] OBF application for Summer of Code has been
	rejected
In-Reply-To: <B306969B-29F9-48C3-9860-F9E30757F0E7@illinois.edu>
References: <44D1FAFD-B5D7-418B-9FDA-6945219A5481@gmx.net>
	<B306969B-29F9-48C3-9860-F9E30757F0E7@illinois.edu>
Message-ID: <D013D9EA-8509-43B7-988C-3CBA94A580F2@gmx.net>

Yes, thanks for mentioning that, was going to do so too. The Perl  
Foundation and the Python foundation have been accepted.

I guess there isn't a Java Foundation, and if there is a Ruby one it  
hasn't been accepted or hasn't applied. However, Ruby on Rails has  
been accepted. Don't know how open they would be a Bioruby project.

	-hilmar

On Mar 18, 2009, at 3:08 PM, Chris Fields wrote:

> Hilmar,
>
> The idea was floated on the google SOC list that language-specific  
> organizations that have been accepted may potentially take  
> bioinformatics-related  applications.  Specifically, Jonathan Leto  
> (from The Perl Foundation) indicated that bioinformatics-related  
> projects using BioPerl might be able to apply through them.  Not  
> sure about others (Python Software Foundation, etc) but might be  
> worth checking into.
>
> Any idea on who's been accepted beyond NEScent?
>
> chris
>
> On Mar 18, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Hilmar Lapp wrote:
>
>> I hope to find out later why, but our Google Summer of Code  
>> application as an umbrella org has been rejected.
>>
>> However, NESCent has been accepted. If you can give your project  
>> idea a phylogenetics/phyloinformatics focus, go and put it up on  
>> the NESCent ideas page at
>>
>> http://hackathon.nescent.org/Phyloinformatics_Summer_of_Code_2009
>>
>> Do so pretty much **now** - we will start broadcasting and reaching  
>> out to students tonight and tomorrow. If someone comes to the site  
>> and they don't see a Bio* project that they would have been  
>> interested in, they may not check back for updates.
>>
>> 	-hilmar
>>
>> -- 
>> ===========================================================
>> : Hilmar Lapp  -:-  Durham, NC  -:-  hlapp at gmx dot net :
>> ===========================================================
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> BioSQL-l mailing list
>> BioSQL-l at lists.open-bio.org
>> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/biosql-l

-- 
===========================================================
: Hilmar Lapp  -:-  Durham, NC  -:-  hlapp at gmx dot net :
===========================================================





From hlapp at gmx.net  Thu Mar 19 14:20:47 2009
From: hlapp at gmx.net (Hilmar Lapp)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:20:47 -0400
Subject: [GSoC] organization feedback
Message-ID: <AF8347A4-9DA0-4886-8F8F-93C788BD9C6E@gmx.net>

Hi all,

just for the records and for those interested, here's the feedback  
from Leslie (who runs the program at Google's end) on our application  
(this is verbatim from IRC on #gsoc): "good application, good ideas  
list, hilmar does well and is experienced. we just cannot accept  
everyone. i wish i had a more satisfying answer for you."

It's a pretty tough year to apply - Google is reducing the number of  
accepted organizations compared to last year by more than 20, and in  
addition they wanted to accept a few new ones, so a significant number  
of orgs who participated last year would have had to be rejected  
already. There were about 400 applying orgs, of which 150 got accepted.

So we didn't make it among the few new orgs, but achieving that was a  
tall order to start with. It seems like we didn't make any mistake  
that one can easily point at, but we also weren't lucky enough to rise  
to one of the few spots given to new orgs.

On the positive side of things, I'm sure this application got us into  
the books, and given the feedback on a positive note, and we can try  
again and harder next year. The project ideas don't have to be for  
naught; there are other organizations, such as NESCent, Perl  
Foundation, and Python Foundation, that did get accepted and some of  
which have already offered to host those in scope for their  
participation. So if you want to make your project happen and it fits  
underneath one of those (or you can make it fit), it's up to you now  
to take charge of that.

Thanks to everyone who helped getting us in shape, I've enjoyed  
putting this together and I'd be up for it again next year provided  
everyone else is too.

BTW I'm going to make the archives of this list public now.

Cheers,

	-hilmar
-- 
===========================================================
: Hilmar Lapp  -:-  Durham, NC  -:-  hlapp at gmx dot net :
===========================================================





From maj at fortinbras.us  Thu Mar 19 14:27:58 2009
From: maj at fortinbras.us (Mark A. Jensen)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:27:58 -0400
Subject: [GSoC] organization feedback
In-Reply-To: <AF8347A4-9DA0-4886-8F8F-93C788BD9C6E@gmx.net>
References: <AF8347A4-9DA0-4886-8F8F-93C788BD9C6E@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <E63A24B0C80046B1A0A52CD30F95693A@NewLife>

Thanks for your hard work on the application, Hilmar- 
onward- MAJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hilmar Lapp" <hlapp at gmx.net>
To: <gsoc at lists.open-bio.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 10:20 AM
Subject: [GSoC] organization feedback


> Hi all,
> 
> just for the records and for those interested, here's the feedback  
> from Leslie (who runs the program at Google's end) on our application  
> (this is verbatim from IRC on #gsoc): "good application, good ideas  
> list, hilmar does well and is experienced. we just cannot accept  
> everyone. i wish i had a more satisfying answer for you."
> 
> It's a pretty tough year to apply - Google is reducing the number of  
> accepted organizations compared to last year by more than 20, and in  
> addition they wanted to accept a few new ones, so a significant number  
> of orgs who participated last year would have had to be rejected  
> already. There were about 400 applying orgs, of which 150 got accepted.
> 
> So we didn't make it among the few new orgs, but achieving that was a  
> tall order to start with. It seems like we didn't make any mistake  
> that one can easily point at, but we also weren't lucky enough to rise  
> to one of the few spots given to new orgs.
> 
> On the positive side of things, I'm sure this application got us into  
> the books, and given the feedback on a positive note, and we can try  
> again and harder next year. The project ideas don't have to be for  
> naught; there are other organizations, such as NESCent, Perl  
> Foundation, and Python Foundation, that did get accepted and some of  
> which have already offered to host those in scope for their  
> participation. So if you want to make your project happen and it fits  
> underneath one of those (or you can make it fit), it's up to you now  
> to take charge of that.
> 
> Thanks to everyone who helped getting us in shape, I've enjoyed  
> putting this together and I'd be up for it again next year provided  
> everyone else is too.
> 
> BTW I'm going to make the archives of this list public now.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> -hilmar
> -- 
> ===========================================================
> : Hilmar Lapp  -:-  Durham, NC  -:-  hlapp at gmx dot net :
> ===========================================================
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> GSoC mailing list
> GSoC at lists.open-bio.org
> http://lists.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/gsoc
> 
>